Pitmaster Burt Bakman, founder of L.A. restaurant SLAB, joins Fred Minnick on the latest episode of The Fred Minnick Show. The Israeli-born chef passionately delivers what he refers to as the holy trinity of Central Texas barbecue: ribs, brisket, links and more.

Together, Burt and Fred pair samples of barbecue with Michter’s 10-Year, Kings County 7-Year and more. Along the way, they discuss barbecue, cooking at the White House, the influence of enslaved people on modern whiskey and cuisine, and plenty more.

Special thanks to the show’s sponsors and to Burt Bakman for appearing.

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About The Fred Minnick Show

The Fred Minnick Show features spirits author, historian and curator Fred Minnick, who interviews celebrities over good drinks. Through the journey, the artists open up to Minnick about life tribulations, what it’s like on the road and their favorite foods. Really, it’s just two people tasting and talking.